Wednesday, July 31, 2013
What is the Significance of the "Two Adams"?
The
Mystery of Romans 16 is for the obedience of faith, not the revelation
of a new dispensation. Obedience is structured through the epistle but
the comparison of the two Adams is significant. Only Paul writes about
the two Adams. The two Adams are both associated with Eden, the first
and the Eden restored. The first Adam in Eden, disobeyed, brought sin
and death into the world and Paradise was lost. The Last Adam, obeyed,
shed His blood, and reversed the ill, and the hope of Romans is the
inner portion of the Promised Land which will be restored like Eden,
Is.51. The Mystery of Romans 16 is the truth found in Adam who was a
figure of Him who was to come. Only Paul brings out the truths of Christ
as found in Adam. We cannot find Scriptures other than Paul which bring
this out; but one thing is for
sure, the mystery of Roms.16 is not explained by turning to Ephesians
which wasn't even written at that time. The Mystery or Roms.16 fits in
the structure and context of the letter.
When was John given the Book of the Revelation?
Brian Kelson of BibleUnderstanding.com answers:
Yes, we know when the book of Revelation was written. It was written during the Acts period, lol.
Yes, we know when the book of Revelation was written. It was written during the Acts period, lol.
First
up, my God is not going to give an entire book of end times information
to the post Acts, church which is His Body who have basically, nothing
to do with such things. We have certainly not been made kings and
priests to God and His Father, 1:5-6. In other words, our dear Heavenly
Father was a tad late if indeed it was written and delivered AD96, years
after the very events it describes had been postponed at Acts 28 at the
setting aside of Israel.
Revelation
has over 290 Jewish OT quotes and themes and is in harmony with the
Gospels and the Acts period letters as to content. Thus contextually,
Revelation fits with 1 &2 Thessalonians, Jude, 1&2 Peter,
Matthew, 1&2 Corinthians et al. This is further evidenced by the
fact it was written by John, whose ministry was to the circumcision.
John was one of the sons to whom the Lord said they were able to drink
of the same cup (of suffering) he endured and James was killed by the
sword in Acts 12, it is unlikely for me, that John lived to a ripe old
age and died peacefully in his sleep.
So the dating is determined by the contents of the book and how those details align with other NT books.
The
Revelation prophesy is about the Day of the Lord which was at hand all
the way to Acts 28. Mr Welch's helpful précis of it in the Alphabetical
Analysis Vol.8 about page 163 is here http://www.bibleunderstanding. com/pdfwritings.htm
I
believe Paul's description of a man who was taken (not up but away
IMHO) to the third heaven in 2Cor.12. refers to the same things as
Revelation. While only one thing, Paradise, is featured in his account,
Paradise is the garden associated with the New Jerusalem, the Water of
and the Tree of life which are associated with the new heaven since the
"first" or former" have passed away. The third heaven is the new one.
Whether it was Paul or John is not so much the issue, but Paul had a
vision of the things of Revelation 14 years before he wrote to the
Corinthians so it was certainly early in the Acts records that the
things of Revelation had already been revealed. Paul does not know
whether it was in the body or outside the body and John writes he was in
the spirit. Paul also clearly tells the Thessalonians he had told them
about such things of Revelation (the man of sin, sitting in the Temple
and exalting himself, compare Matt.24) when he had been with them on his
second "missionary" journey. If the Temple had been destroyed AD 70,
the divine author would have made reference to the Temple that USED to
stand on Zion, where, in the future, the man of sin would reveal himself
but Paul didn't write in that prophetic sense, he wrote in the now, in
the imminence of the time. We shall not all die etc.
This
is the best I can do my beloved student. I wish I could be more
accurate for you and yours, but we have no other guides to the writing.
Some argue that John was in spirit on the day of the Lord and thus was
writing prophetically of events in the far distant future, but this is
interpreting according to hindsight in my view.
The
events of Revelation were widely known during the Acts, having been
revealed through the prophetic; the supernatural gifts of that time.
Wednesday, July 17, 2013
What exactly will the Remnant Inherit and When?
The
remnant during Acts were waiting for the Lord's return to the earth
where they would live and reign with him. So, they are/were not going up
into heaven where the New Jerusalem remains for a time. They were righteous and
would live with Christ in the inner portion (Gen. 17).
There the Lord specifically says he will be a God to Abraham and his
seed. He did not say this regarding the outer portion, Gen.15, which was
not given to Abraham himself, only his seed. Remember, the Gentiles
of faith during Acts were, in Christ, and thus the seed of Abraham who
would also inherit the inner portion. It is children of the kingdom who
are cast out, not the "unsaved," but rather the unrepentant Jews.
When
the Lord returns there are some Israelites still alive ("in Isaac shall
thy seed be called") and while these are not living and reigning, they
are re-gathered (if not in the land) where they will enjoy long life, but
the sinner will die at 100. Now the outer darkness brings forth, or is
where the weeping and gnashing of teeth takes place, because of the
previously unrepentant seed of Isaac. Jews thought they would celebrate
"next year in Jerusalem," they said it at the close of every Passover meal so I
believe. Sad state of affairs to be cast outside the holy hill of Zion,
Psalm 24. Paul called the Corinthians "chaste virgins." The word "meet" in
1 Thess. 4:13-18 first occurs in Matt. 25 where virgins go out to meet the Bridegroom, not the Head. Read Matt. 24-25 and 1 Thess. 4 and 2 Thess. 2.
Some of these virgins were ready, others were not; he warned them all to
watch and pray. Then there was the guy who made it past the front door
without a wedding garment, not clothed in fine linen, no access to the
inner celebrations and he was speechless, thus a JEW who thought he had
every right to be there, but no.
In
the East the Bridegroom comes TO the Bride, never FOR her, read
Jer. 30-31 and see if you can find birth pangs, the tribulation, Bride
and Bridegroom dancing. nations who mistreated Israel punished (Matt.25
the righteous didn't even know they were serving Christ, Gen. 12:1-3).
Weddings were celebrated in the bride's house, not the groom's.
Jer. 30-31, Matt. 24-25, 1 Cor. 15, 1 & 2 Thess. Revelation are all the
culmination of Israel's festive calendar deliverance in glorious
fulfillment.
Also,
does the valley of dry bones speak of a resurrection of those worthy to
live in the kingdom, but not reign there? Again, the malefactor asked
for the kingdom but received paradise which is way after the "kingdom."
Will the whole remnant of Israel be protected during the Tribulation?
Praise
the Lord for his word; it explains itself; and given time, we shall
increase in the knowledge of God as we apply the truths we know.
Col.1:9-12.
The
Lord instructed the disciples how they could avoid the tribulation and "the Lord's prayer" is now becoming incredibly specific as we position it
in the earthly scheme of things.
The
Lord said (in an Australian paraphrased sorta way), hey friends, when
you see the armies surrounding Jerusalem, get out of town. When they
were obedient and didn't even come back for their food caches (stored
for the very occasion), their GPS's and folding maps, they would be
praying the Lord's prayer IN THE WILDERNESS, with great intent as
follows:
Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed by thy name,
thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven,
give us this day the bread which comes down from heaven (or from above)
and forgive our debts (trespass, faults, offenses, sins), as we forgive our debtors
and
lead us not into temptation (God doesn't tempt anyone, James 1, so how
about trials or even tribulation)? BUT deliver us from THE EVIL ONE (who
is pouring a flood after them (Rev. 12), just like Pharaoh did).
for thine is the kingdom, etc., etc.
Paul
wrote to the Thessalonians during Acts that the Day was not going to
overtake them like a thief? They would not be caught by surprise and
suffer.
So
what about those who did not flee? Maybe the martyrs will be those who
hear the message during the tribulation period after the others have
fled (the Lord has never left Himself without a witness), and these are
the ones to suffer? Notice, the disciples were told to flee out of
Jerusalem, not easy for an orthodox Jew; but it is there the image in
the temple is erected; there the powerful deceptions take place, there
the thinking Jew might reject the falsehoods and turn back to God and
stand for the commandments and die for that. There are witnesses in
Jerusalem around that time.
Certainly
the supernatural gifts of the Acts period enabled the remnant to determine
the spirits; and maybe they will return during those tribulation days
and help preserve those believers living under the eyes of the
anti-Messiah?
The
hope of the remnant during Acts was to meet the Lord as he returned at
the second coming, but they enjoy the earthly kingdom first, judging
angels (on the earth) and the world. Many will come and sit down with
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom, Matt. 8; but Abraham also looked
for a city which has foundations, so first the inner portion of the
Promised Land.
I
think (think, did I say think?) the New Jerusalem descends to the new
earth years after the second coming. DO the remnant have access to it
during the interval? I don't believe so.
Monday, July 15, 2013
Did the Parable of the Fig Tree Add a Year to Israel's Chance at the Kingdom?
In the matter of the fig tree of Luke 13:6-9, where does it say add another year? It says let it alone THIS YEAR. Add
another year to what? Even if Christ was cut off at the 69th year,
Israel were NEVER to be cut off at Passover – Passover was the beginning
of their deliverance, not the setting aside of the nation. If Christ was
cut off at the 69th week, how is it another year needs to be added,
there remained 7 years of the 70 anyway. Only Messiah was to be cut off
but "not for himself" at the cross. When he prayed "Father forgive them," it
didn't mean he had prevented them from being cut off.
It is beyond a joke to insist that Acts 7 was one year from the cross anyway. Herod died in AD44 as recorded in Acts 12, so Acts 1-7 was one year, and 8-12 was 15? The three years of testimony in Luke 13? What did they mean? Too much is made of the years, when the context is "unless you repent you shall likewise perish." It is the giving of further time which matters, not how much time because we know, the testimony to Israel was constant right through Acts as Romans 10:21 shows. Israel rejected God at Kadesh-Barnea and wandered for 40 years. The purpose was not altered just because Israel was unfaithful.
The death of Stephen was the temporary closing of the recorded witness in Jerusalem is all. In Acts 21, James invites Paul to consider all the thousands who were saved and zealous of the Law – who witnessed to them? The witness remained there, but for the records, after Stephen from Acts 8 it then went to Judea and Samaria according to Acts1:8. Acts 11 saw another martyrdom: James; but this didn't mean Israel were cast aside either, but the witness moved outside the Land. All those who were scattered at the persecution of Stephen preached to none but Jews only, Acts 11:19-23. At Antioch, Barnabas saw the grace of God; but he sure didn't see the dispensation of the grace of God. Neither Paul or any other Jew preached any new economy, it was all the OT.
See also:
It is beyond a joke to insist that Acts 7 was one year from the cross anyway. Herod died in AD44 as recorded in Acts 12, so Acts 1-7 was one year, and 8-12 was 15? The three years of testimony in Luke 13? What did they mean? Too much is made of the years, when the context is "unless you repent you shall likewise perish." It is the giving of further time which matters, not how much time because we know, the testimony to Israel was constant right through Acts as Romans 10:21 shows. Israel rejected God at Kadesh-Barnea and wandered for 40 years. The purpose was not altered just because Israel was unfaithful.
The death of Stephen was the temporary closing of the recorded witness in Jerusalem is all. In Acts 21, James invites Paul to consider all the thousands who were saved and zealous of the Law – who witnessed to them? The witness remained there, but for the records, after Stephen from Acts 8 it then went to Judea and Samaria according to Acts1:8. Acts 11 saw another martyrdom: James; but this didn't mean Israel were cast aside either, but the witness moved outside the Land. All those who were scattered at the persecution of Stephen preached to none but Jews only, Acts 11:19-23. At Antioch, Barnabas saw the grace of God; but he sure didn't see the dispensation of the grace of God. Neither Paul or any other Jew preached any new economy, it was all the OT.
See also:
Did the Parable of the Fig Tree Add a Year to Israel's Chance at the Kingdom?
Did Israel blaspheme the Holy Spirit by stoning Stephen?
What does the Lord "standing" in Acts 7 really mean?
Thursday, July 11, 2013
How Many of Paul's Letters are for Us and Which are They?
There are seven Pauline letters written after he received the revelation of the mystery as set forth in Ephesians 3: Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus, and Philemon. These letters contain the doctrine God would have the church, which is Christ's body, learn and live by. Consideration must be given to the fact that by the time 2 Timothy, the last of Paul's letters, was penned, even his well-established assemblies such as that at Ephesus and Colossae had turned away from his God-given authority: "This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes." (2 Timothy 1:15). Since that time, fully-developed assemblies have been few and far between; with only small pockets of individual adherents guarding and teaching the knowledge of the post-Acts genesis of the "one new man" created to inherit the heavenly places.
Wednesday, July 3, 2013
Was Acts 7 "Three Strikes & You're Out" for Israel?
As you know, many feel
that this was a cut off point for the nation of Israel because they
rejected Stephen's message and soon after Paul was converted, and Peter
opened the door to the Gentiles. Some imagined three strikes and Israel
was out theory is promoted and the vision of Stephen is somehow a
confirmation of this.
The three strikes and you're out is a Mid Acts invention. Yes,
Israel killed the prophets; but Christ still came according to the
prophets; so the first strike didn't stop God from His purposes. Yes,
Israel crucified their Lord; but that isn't a strike, since the Lord
prayed for their forgiveness and the cutting off of Messiah was
according to the prophets. SO, we don't have any strikes yet. Stephen was a martyr, but he prayed "Lord, lay not this sin to their charge," so that isn't a strike either. Then
Paul said "all day long the Lord was holding out his hands to a
disobedient and gainsaying people," so obviously the Lord didn't hold any
strikes against Israel at Roms.10:29-11:3.
Here are some facts which expose this theory as being out of context and thus, out of line with Scripture.
First up, the Lord had given strict instructions as to how the ministry was to unfold here;
Act
1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying,
Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you:
and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea,
and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Acts
begins with the restoration of the kingdom in view and the witness is
in Jerusalem (where they were to wait), Judea, then Samaria and further
out. The martyrdom of Stephen saw the conclusion of the witness in
Jerusalem, the next area of witness was about to commence, not national
dismissal of Israel.
BTW,
there is no historical evidence that it was 1 year from the crucifixion
to Acts 7, and the idea that another year was added is based upon the
false premise that Israel would have been cut off at the cross which was
never the case, only Messiah was to be cut off, and not for Himself.
Passover was the beginning of Israel's deliverance, not the end of them.
Stephen's
address tells us precisely the state of affairs in the divine scheme of
things, and when we allow Scripture to point the way forward for us, we
are always going to be on the right track. Stephen is addressing the
leaders of Israel and he begins with the call of Abraham and the bondage
and great Exodus deliverance of Israel; their first Passover. Joseph is
then featured as one who was rejected, sold for silver, cast into a pit
BUT despite Israel's faithlessness, it was through the rejected Joseph
that deliverance came. Joseph was recognized THE SECOND TIME. There is
nothing in the story of Joseph which indicates and casting off of
Israel, only the faithfulness of God in the face of Israel's
unfaithfulness.
Next
character in the story is Moses who thought his brethren would
understand that God had sent him to deliver them, but they understood
not. Moses was 40 and returned the second time at 80 years of age. BTW,
the Acts period runs nearly 40 years but the fact is, Moses was rejected
the first time, but this did not mean God had turned away from Jacob.
Nothing in Joseph or Moses can possibly be interpreted as the casting
off of Israel, on the contrary, two brothers of Israel, 2who had been
rejected, and wickedly so, were the means of Israel's salvation, not the
bringing in of anything new and completely different. In verse 34, God
said that He had seen the affliction of HIS PEOPLE, and Moses was sent
back and this Moses Israel refused as a ruler and judge, was the one
sent to be a ruler and judge. Stephen immediately reminds Israel's
leaders that Moses warned them of the One coming like him. Like him,
Christ would be like Moses, rejected, scorned as the other prophets
foretold, but this does not mean Israel would be cast off simply because
the message of Jesus of Nazareth was rejected.
When we overlay our own ideas on the types and plain words of Scripture, we are confusing the entire setting.
Stephen's
message then turns to the faithless Israel, who even rejected Moses
despite the incredible and mighty signs and wonders done before their
eyes, but again, God never cast them aside, He gave them over to the
idolatrous ways, but they remained His people and Solomon built the
Temple. Solomon is a picture of Christ in glory, not the church which is
His Body brought in because Israel were stiff-necked and uncircumcised
in heart and ears.
What did Stephen see as they fell upon him? He saw the glory of God first. Which God? The God of Israel's fathers.
Stephen
then prayed, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. Israel sinned
which was their historical propensity, but they were not cast aside
here. Let us turn to our Apostle Paul, not even converted at this time,
so years later he wrote this in Romans;
Rom 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Rom 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Rom 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Rom 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
Rom 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
Rom 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Paul
is telling us plainly, what if some of them did not believe? shall
their unbelief make the faith (fullness) of God without effect? IN other
words, just because Israel is faithless does not mean God is faithless.
He had made promises to Israel's fathers and God will keep them as
Stephen's address proves.
How
spurious is it that so many today want to quote Roms.3:4 pointing to
others of different beliefs that they are liars, when the use of Ps.51:4
by Paul is in the context of God's faithfulness to Israel despite their
rejection of Him. Here is Psalm 54, can anyone see a new calling in the
repentant prayer of King David who pleads for God to do His good
pleasure in ZION and rebuild the walls of Jerusalem?
Psa 51:14 Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: and my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness.
Psa 51:15 O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise.
Psa 51:16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
Psa 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
Psa 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem.
Psa 51:19 Then shalt thou be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole burnt offering: then shall they offer bullocks upon thine altar.
Psa 51:14 Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: and my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness.
Psa 51:15 O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise.
Psa 51:16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
Psa 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
Psa 51:18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem.
Psa 51:19 Then shalt thou be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole burnt offering: then shall they offer bullocks upon thine altar.
Later in Romans, Paul writes this;
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
The
gifts and calling (singular) is without change of mind.
Prior
to this, Paul had written that God was holding forth His hands to a
disobedient (disbelieving) and gainsaying people (plural, that is the
nation, not individuals) – further evidence that the nation had not been
cast aside anytime previously; Roms.10:21-11:5. A reading of 1Kings 19:10-18
will also show the national rebellion but the faithfulness of God who
had preserved to Himself a remnant as was the case during Acts. We are
not a remnant according to the election of grace, 11:5 and 9:24-29.
Returning
to Roms.3, we are not to read any change of dispensation in the word
vengeance of verse 5. Vengeance is that which Moses spoke about which
was to be meted out upon the Lord's return, Roms.12:19, Deut.32:35, 43,
Roms.15:10.
Messiah
was not cut off at the 69th week. He was cut off at the 62nd as the
angel spoke to Daniel in chapter 9. Rome does not produce the
anti-Messiah as Daniel 8:8-10 proves. Alexander, the great he goat never
conquered Rome and the anti-Messiah comes from one of the four
divisions of Alexander's kingdom. For the 69th week, see the Tract, What
happened to Israel? Lo-Ammi, at the bottom of this page http://www.bibleunderstanding. com/biblestudies.htm
Stephen's
address at Acts 7 is all about God's faithfulness to Israel despite the
rejection of the deliverers sent to them. This says nothing of God
casting them aside, rather on the contrary, it proves that no matter how
much Israel remained stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears,
that God would complete His work upon the earth.
As
in the past, Israel faithless, stiff-necked, but God continued on with
His purposes because of His faithfulness. Here are some OT passages to
show the Acts period setting in type.
Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Num 23:20 Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it.
Num 23:21 He hath not beheld iniquity in Jacob, neither hath he seen perverseness in Israel: the LORD his God is with him, and the shout of a king is among them.
Deut.4:33-39.
Deu 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
Deu 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
Deu 7:8
But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath
which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with
a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the
hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Deu
9:4 Speak not thou in thine heart, after that the LORD thy God hath
cast them out from before thee, saying, For my righteousness the LORD
hath brought me in to possess this land: but for the wickedness of these
nations the LORD doth drive them out from before thee.
Deu
9:5 Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart,
dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these
nations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that
he may perform the word which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob.
Deu
9:6 Understand therefore, that the LORD thy God giveth thee not this
good land to possess it for thy righteousness; for thou art a stiffnecked people.
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